'Sib. 7.5: What have I done?'

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Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 24 Oct 08:27PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Wim Hoogewerf, 24 Oct 08:37PM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 24 Oct 10:21PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Mike Lyons, 25 Oct 07:56AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 25 Oct 05:31PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Laurence Payne, 25 Oct 06:02PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 25 Oct 09:13PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Laurence Payne, 25 Oct 09:18PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 25 Oct 09:30PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Mike Lyons, 26 Oct 07:36AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Laurence Payne, 26 Oct 12:43PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Mike Lyons, 26 Oct 06:26PM

Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by John Bird - 24 Oct 08:27PM (edited 24 Oct 08:28PM)
I am working away producing a simple score when the 2 bars suddenly separate and leave a gap,and starts a new stave see pic. I did not mean to do it so what have I done to cause this and how can I eliminate the gap?
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by Wim Hoogewerf - 24 Oct 08:37PM
You've been dragging bar lines. Select the bar line after the gap and do Lay-out > Reset Position

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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by John Bird - 24 Oct 10:21PM
Wow, thanks for the explanation, this problem has been driving me mad for ages:)
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by Mike Lyons - 25 Oct 07:56AM (edited 25 Oct 07:58AM)
The moral of the story is - don't drag barlines! If you want to resize bars, use [shift][alt]<- or [shift][alt]->.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by John Bird - 25 Oct 05:31PM
Yes Thanks that's a good tip and there is more fine control than using the mouse
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by Laurence Payne - 25 Oct 06:02PM
Not so much finer control as doing something completely different!
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by John Bird - 25 Oct 09:13PM (edited 25 Oct 09:26PM)
Well I use to drag notes and bar lines with the mouse and now I use the shift alt and arrow keys,left and right and it's much better for me to have this much finer control. I do not now get into a mess with those gaps:)
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by Laurence Payne - 25 Oct 09:18PM
If you have a note spacing problem, first select the passage and apply Reset Note Spacing. If there's still a problem, see if you're trying to force too many (or two few) bars onto a line. Rethink the Line Break positions. If you REALLY need that many bars on one line maybe you should reduce the Staff Size a bit rather than forcing a cramped layout? Only as a last resort attempt to compress or expand Sibelius' natural note spacing.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by John Bird - 25 Oct 09:30PM
OK thanks I had not previously used the reset note spacing so I will try that tip instead of trying to do it manually.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by Mike Lyons - 26 Oct 07:36AM
It is always better IMHO to start from a position where Sibelius has been allowed to do its thing. Then you can decide whether you like what it has done and change it - or not.

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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by Laurence Payne - 26 Oct 12:43PM
Just remember that "its thing" includes YOU routinely clicking Reset Note Spacing (and maybe some of the other Resets) after a note editing session. And that some of the Auto Layout defaults, particularly in Parts, are probably not what you'd choose.
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Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done?
Posted by Mike Lyons - 26 Oct 06:26PM
^Always has to have the last word! ;-)

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Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 24 Oct 08:27PM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Wim Hoogewerf, 24 Oct 08:37PM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 24 Oct 10:21PM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Mike Lyons, 25 Oct 07:56AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 25 Oct 05:31PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Laurence Payne, 25 Oct 06:02PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 25 Oct 09:13PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Laurence Payne, 25 Oct 09:18PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - John Bird, 25 Oct 09:30PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Mike Lyons, 26 Oct 07:36AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Laurence Payne, 26 Oct 12:43PM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.5: What have I done? - Mike Lyons, 26 Oct 06:26PM