'Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback'

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Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 12:28AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 12:36AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 12:44AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 01:02AM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 10:12AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 11:50AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 01:02PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Andy G, 22 Sep 03:50PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 04:01PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 04:34PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 05:08PM

Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by RoyD - 22 Sep 12:28AM
I am a relatively new user to Sibelius and having scanned in a copy of John Rutter's Angels' Carol, on playback I am getting increased "sound volumes" during longer notes and some reduced volumes on other notes. there are no other markers after, for example, an initial "mf" to alter "volumes".

Can anyone please tell me how to resolve this without eating the manual ....
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by Bob Morabito - 22 Sep 12:36AM (edited 22 Sep 12:38AM)
Play Tab> Interpretation> Performance> Style> Espressivo> try the Meccanico setting


Thanks Bob

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by RoyD - 22 Sep 12:44AM
Bob, I have already tried this with no effect ...
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by Bob Morabito - 22 Sep 01:02AM
You're welcome:)

Pls attach the Sib score that demonstrates this problem.


Thanks Bob

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by RoyD - 22 Sep 10:12AM
Hi Bob,

I have attached a copy of the sib file with this issue. In the attached the Sop 1 volume is lowered so that the Sop 2/Alto line is prominent.

Thanks
Roy
Attachment RUT Angels'Carol.sib (62K)
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by Bob Morabito - 22 Sep 11:50AM
HI Roy--

The piece did have Espressivo on (Espressivo 2) and also had other dynamics later in the piece.

However even setting it to Meccanico, with headphones on I can hear what you're talking about--though, sorry I dont know whats causing it.

The effect can be heard even more when the voices are panned center.

Thanks Bob
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by RoyD - 22 Sep 01:02PM
Thanks for looking at it Bob, I had already tried all the dynamic settings including Meccanico with no effect.

Anyone else got any ideas please?

Thanks,
Roy
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by Andy G - 22 Sep 03:50PM
Have any hidden MIDI control messages - CC11 or CC7 - or velocity messages crept their way into the score when it was scanned and imported?

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by RoyD - 22 Sep 04:01PM
Thanks for this suggestion Andy.

I imported a pdf file from the net that looked identical to my printed score, seemed easier at the time - not so sure now. How would I check for these two possibilities?

Incidentally, I have updated to v7.5.1 today and this did not fix it.

Roy
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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by Bob Morabito - 22 Sep 04:34PM
>Have any hidden MIDI control messages - CC11 or CC7 - or velocity messages crept their way into the score when it was scanned and imported?

>How would I check for these two possibilities?


View tab >Invisibles>check Hidden objects

I checked for these, among other stuff when I looked the piece over before...seems long sustained notes cresc, and the immediate following notes are lower...

Thanks Bob

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Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback
Posted by RoyD - 22 Sep 05:08PM
I agree with your analysis Bob and I have duplicated this by entering the first sequence of notes from bar 3 in a new score with the same results. It seems that whatever is at fault is within my basic Sibelius setup and not just the score ...

Thanks,
Roy
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Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 12:28AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 12:36AM
     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 12:44AM
         Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 01:02AM
             Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 10:12AM
                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 11:50AM
                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 01:02PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Andy G, 22 Sep 03:50PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 04:01PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - Bob Morabito, 22 Sep 04:34PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.5: Changing volumes on playback - RoyD, 22 Sep 05:08PM