I have a page in a score in Sibelius 7.1.3 which contains text (just descriptive material about the score). The page follows on from the title page. The text is the only object on the page except for the page number.
However, the text is completely unselectable: a feint frame is visible around the text if I click on it. I can neither move, select, nor edit the text.
If I move the page slightly out of view, the text disappears. It reappears as soon as I move the page back to be fully in view.
The text does not appear in an exported PDF file - this is the main cause of alarm!
So can someone advise please. I'd be glad to provide further information.
I have attached the file as requested. I don't think it's a graphic of the text, because I can't move it or select it. Also, if I do a "Select All" it seems to be selected with everything else, but I cannot just select the text object on its own. The offending text is on page 3.
It looks like the text was created on page 4 originally and then dragged to page 3, which doesn't work. I can't think of a good solution but would be glad to know of one.
In not exactly sure how I did this--its now editable and selectable,but I see it affected the rest of the score
I was trying many things at once, getting frustrated..LOL--and suddenly I was able to change it to plain text blank page and it was ok--but it affected the rest of the piece.
Perhaps this might help in some way, though Im doubtful.
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Bob Morabito
Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1
Mac OS 10.9.4 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD
I used Bob Z's plugin:
Filter Other
and set it to:
Plain Text (on blank page)
and then Cut & Paste to Pages (or Word, or any word processing program).
If you choose only:
"Front cover picture (St Michael & All Angels Church, Atworth)
by courtesy of Lynne M Spencer"
from the WP program, the whole 2 pages of Text is pasted if you use a normal paste so Right-click (or Command (Ctrl on Windows) + click) on the blank Sib page and choose from the contextual menu:
Text>Blank Page Text>Plain Text (on blank page)
as in the "Contextual Menu" screenshot, for just:
"Front cover picture (St Michael & All Angels Church, Atworth)
by courtesy of Lynne M Spencer"
For the large para w/Kenneth's name at the bottom all formatting is lost in this process. It'll paste as one long line. Copy just this text and again make sure you right-click and use: "Text>Blank Page Text>Plain Text (on blank page)" again in Sib.
I take a screenshot of the original and as you can see in the "Formatting" screenshot, there is a space for each carriage return so it goes quickly.
Fixed score is attached, you can just tweak spacing and sizes.
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PS - I haven't worked w/Blank Pages in a while, but I think if you Cut the text, THEN delete an extra page, then Paste the text to the proper page, you'll have better luck.
Don't drag Blank Page Text from one page to another. Once you let it loose it's hard to recapture.
These three objects seem to be part of the same problem:
1. the photo on the front page;
2. the footer on page 2;
3. the text on page 3.
They seem to have no attachment, so I wonder if they were originally created attached to a bar which has subsequently been deleted.
For a bizarre way of selecting these items (but not making them editable):
- click on a time signature at the start of the piece;
- shift-click on the time-signature.
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Sibelius 7.5.1/7.1.3/6.2/5.2.5, PhotoScore Ult 7.0.2, Dolet 6.3 for Sibelius, Windows 7 32-bit SP1, 4GB RAM
Wow, I don't know how you discovered that shortcut Robin!
That can be used as an alternative to using Bob Z's plugin for cutting the text in this particular case . . . or maybe not, since Bob's plugin leaves the photo on the front page untouched.
First: thanks to everyone for their input.
Specifically:
- Robin, the three objects were created quite separately, with no difficulty in editing the page 1 text, or image, or the page 2 acknowledgment;
- Richie, I retrieved your "FIXED ..." file, but couldn't load it as Sibelius reported that my version (confirmed as 7.1.3) would require an update to do so. But thanks for the detailed explanation though;
- Philip, you were right I did create the text on page 2 (not 4) and dragged it to page 3, having no idea the chaos that action would create!;
- Finally, Bob, you did it! I have used your amended file to put everything right and make my final edits. So thanks alot - you are due a beer if you are ever in Wiltshire around Atworth!
>Finally, Bob, you did it! I have used your amended file to put everything right and make my final edits. So thanks alot - you are due a beer if you are ever in Wiltshire around Atworth!
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EXCELLENT news! And Ill take you up on that beer if I'm ever out that way:) Thanks!
Thanks Bob
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Bob Morabito
Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1
Mac OS 10.9.4 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD
FWIW: a rational way to get an 'unselectable' item selected is do to 'select all' and then filter for all text containing a specific word which only occurs in the problematic text block. Here for example 'Speechley'. That selects the block.
Next: cut and paste back in. That makes it editable again.
> FWIW: a rational way to get an 'unselectable' item selected is do to 'select all' and then filter for all text containing a specific word which only occurs in the problematic text block. Here for example 'Speechley'. That selects the block.
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> Next: cut and paste back in. That makes it editable again.
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Bob Morabito
Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5.1
Mac OS 10.9.4 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD