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Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Michel Plasse, 08 May 12:51PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Bob Morabito, 08 May 01:43PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Michel Plasse, 08 May 03:55PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Bob Morabito, 08 May 04:35PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Patrick O'Keefe, 08 May 06:33PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Ronald Pearl, 08 May 06:50PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Bob Morabito, 08 May 07:27PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Tony Cliff, 08 May 10:06PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Jesper Elén, 09 May 06:31AM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Michel Plasse, 09 May 03:14PM

Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Michel Plasse - 08 May 12:51PM

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Hello, does somebody have a soundset for Samplemodeling?
I have bought their Saxophones, which sound very well when used in real time from a keyboard, but I can't make them sound in Sibelius (version 6.2).

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Sib 6.2, ASIO4all, Windows XP SP3, 4Gb RAM, Intel Core duo

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Bob Morabito - 08 May 01:43PM

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This is for the Sound Set Project by Jonathan Loving, and is highly recommended.

Pls see:

http://www.soundsetproject.com/soundsets/

"Need a Sound Set?

Do you need a sound set for a sample library or hardware device we haven't covered? Let us know! We prioritize development, almost exclusively, based on user demand, so the more you tell us the better we can serve you."

The link that you click on there is the following, a form:

https://www.soundsetproject.com/company/contact/

Hope this helps--

Thanks Bob

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Bob Morabito
Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5
Mac OS 10.9.2 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Michel Plasse - 08 May 03:55PM

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Thank you for the link. Unfortunately the soundsetproject does not have yet a sound set for any samplemodeling library.

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Bob Morabito - 08 May 04:35PM

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Youre welcome:)

Thanks Bob
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Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5
Mac OS 10.9.2 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Patrick O'Keefe - 08 May 06:33PM

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> Thank you for the link. Unfortunately the soundsetproject does not have yet a sound set for any samplemodeling library.

But as Bob quoted in his posting, Johnathan accepts requests. You have nothing to lose by asking for the soundsets. If soundsets for the libraries can be created, Johnathan can (and probably will) do it. And at a very reasonable price.

Plus you'll get the pleasure of working with someone who really goes out of his way to help people.

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Patrick O'Keefe

Sib 7.1.3, GPO4, Win7 x64 Pro
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Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Ronald Pearl - 08 May 06:50PM

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The soundset aside, what is the playback engine for this library? Is it listed - and activated - in the Configuration panel? Until that happens, nothing will play. Sorry if you have already done this, but a few more details will help get this sorted out.

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Bob Morabito - 08 May 07:27PM

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>The soundset aside, what is the playback engine for this library?
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Pls see:

http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/faq.php

"Product purchase

What is “Kontakt” or “Kontakt Player”?

Our instruments are designed and programmed on an existing, advanced platform, licensed by Native Instruments, a company based in Berlin. Kontakt – either in the full version or as the free, read-only Kontakt Player downloadable with our products – is the host for our software and acts as a stand-alone application, or as a plug-in in all possible standards. For that reason Native Instruments provides also the technical support, copy protection, and registration data base for our customers.

Technical

What is “Kontakt” or “Kontakt Player”?

Kontakt is a software necessary to make our instruments work. There are two versions available:
- Free Kontakt Player version. It´s added to all our products, so no additional software is needed;
- Kontakt – the full version. If you own it already, you do not need to download the player version.
There is no difference between both versions as far as the functionality of our instruments is concerned."

Thanks Bob

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Bob Morabito
Sib 5.2.5, 6.2, 7.1.3. 7.5
Mac OS 10.9.2 iMac 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Tony Cliff - 08 May 10:06PM

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Quite a few of the recent Samplemodeling range of instruments including the saxophones no longer need to be hosted by Kontakt but use their proprietary SWAM sound engine. Sadly these fantastic instruments don't work well with Sibelius as they require real-time controllers for expression. You have to send expression pedal volume messages to get the instrument to sound at all. They work better played in a DAW program either via a controller keyboard with expression volume pedal and also careful use of modulation and pitch bend. Even better of course played with a MIDI wind controller. I seem to remember contacting Jonathan a good while back about the Samplemodeling instruments and he was not hopeful of producing suitable soundsets. Might be worth contacting again though and seeing if the picture had changed.

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Jesper Elén - 09 May 06:31AM

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And if you don't have a super computer you probably can't play more that 2 or 3 saxes at the same time, they are very cpu hungry.

Jesper

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Wallander Intstruments NotePerformer 1.3.0,
EZDrummer Jazz 1.3.3, Pianoteq Standard 4.5.4, Acoustic Samples The Upright

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset
Posted by Michel Plasse - 09 May 03:14PM

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Thanks to all. I can now make Sibelius play the instruments.

I had to send before playback a midi controler for the expression volume. I sent it through the midi keyboard before playback, which doesn't work. Instead, I wrote a midi controller directly on the score (~C,) which works.

The result is quite flat, as the great realism of the instruments come from the expression volume more than the velocity (used rather for attacks). A soundset, and a customised sibelius dictionary will be quite useful.

Played in real time, the instruments are really impressive. However, they seem to be monophonic. This is not a problem in solo parts, but is not convenient for ensemble parts or when testing harmonic or polyphonic ideas.

About hardware requirements, a sax quartet works fine on an intel core duo.

My playback conf consists of the four sax instruments (each running the SWAM engine) with manual sounds.

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Sib 6.2, ASIO4all, Windows XP SP3, 4Gb RAM, Intel Core duo

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Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Michel Plasse, 08 May 12:51PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Bob Morabito, 08 May 01:43PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Michel Plasse, 08 May 03:55PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Bob Morabito, 08 May 04:35PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Patrick O'Keefe, 08 May 06:33PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Ronald Pearl, 08 May 06:50PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Bob Morabito, 08 May 07:27PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Tony Cliff, 08 May 10:06PM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Jesper Elén, 09 May 06:31AM

Re: Sib. 6.x: Samplemodeling soundset - Michel Plasse, 09 May 03:14PM