'Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback '

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Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 29 May 12:35AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Jim Druckenmiller, 29 May 01:52AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Derek Bourgeois, 29 May 07:48AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 29 May 07:19PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Derek Bourgeois, 29 May 07:44PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 29 May 09:03PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Robin Walker, 29 May 09:14PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Bob Morabito, 30 May 12:35AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 30 May 01:49PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Scott Freeby, 30 Aug 02:26PM

Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Josephal - 29 May 12:35AM
I tried searching for a thread for my particular problem with no success . . .

I'm having a playback problem with a string passage; after playing col legno for 1 measure the playback ignores the input "arco" and continues interpreting everything as "col legno."

Any tips on how to get the playback to follow the input text?

Thanks.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Jim Druckenmiller - 29 May 01:52AM (edited 29 May 02:08AM)
Have you gone into the Playback Dictionary, and checked the settings for these words?

If arco is set to... 'Sound ID:[ -pizzicato ]', does changing this (or adding in) '-col lengo' fix playback?

I'd start by making sure there's agreement in the playback dictionary. Even look at the Word Properties. maybe a case sensitive setting(?), ect...

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I'm not sure I don't use this area of Sibelius very much. But I know it's sensitive to scanning all words/text in the score, and trying to interpret a meaningful playback - even words not intended to be used in this fashion.

Can you attach an example of your score if this doesn't help?



Take Care,

Jim Druckenmiller
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Derek Bourgeois - 29 May 07:48AM
Even the addition of text such as "Do not slow down" can cause a sudden dramatic drop in tempo unless "Play on Pass" is deactivated for the text.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Josephal - 29 May 07:19PM
Jim,

It worked; I went to Playback Dict. and added -col legno and the playback interpreted the correct input sequence: arco, col legno, arco.

Thanks!
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Derek Bourgeois - 29 May 07:44PM (edited 29 May 10:11PM)
It sounds as if you have selected the wrong soundset/Housestyle. The correct soundset should have all these Playback Dictionary definitions ready to use if used with the correct template.

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Derek Bourgeois, Dorset UK
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Josephal - 29 May 09:03PM
Derek,

You'll have to forgive my ignorance; how does one choose the wrong soundset/Housestyle? Or, rather how does one know how to choose the right one?
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 29 May 09:14PM
That depends which sound library you are using, which you haven't told us.

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Bob Morabito - 30 May 12:35AM
There are times you have to use "norm" or "ord" after an articulation before you can use and hear a new one. This is the case with XCE (Xsample Chamber Ensemble)

http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=584682&groupid=3&&guest=1

Thanks Bob

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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Josephal - 30 May 01:49PM
Bob,

Could you walk me through the steps on how to do this? I'm a newbie with Sib. 7.
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Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback
Posted by Scott Freeby - 30 Aug 02:26PM

I'm very interested in those steps as well. Having the same issues
Scott
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Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 29 May 12:35AM
     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Jim Druckenmiller, 29 May 01:52AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Derek Bourgeois, 29 May 07:48AM
         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 29 May 07:19PM
             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Derek Bourgeois, 29 May 07:44PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 29 May 09:03PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Robin Walker, 29 May 09:14PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Bob Morabito, 30 May 12:35AM
                             Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Josephal, 30 May 01:49PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.1.3: Col legno/arco playback - Scott Freeby, 30 Aug 02:26PM