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Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral ... - tylerama, 19 Jun 06:56PM
     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Jesper Elén, 19 Jun 07:01PM
         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Bob Porter, 19 Jun 10:49PM
             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Loch, 19 Jun 11:56PM
                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Peter Roos, 20 Jun 12:06AM
                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Richard Hatton, 20 Jun 09:09AM
                         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - tylerama, 20 Jun 03:53PM
                             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Loch, 21 Jun 12:56AM
                                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - almound, 17 Jun 10:23PM
                                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - David Ross, 18 Jun 12:46AM
                                         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Jesper Elén, 18 Jun 06:37AM
                                             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - phidler, 24 Aug 09:20PM
                                                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Mike Lyons, 24 Aug 09:55PM
                                                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Dennis Larson, 31 Aug 01:11AM
                                                         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - guitarguitar, 15 Aug 12:43PM
                                                             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - guitarguitar, 15 Aug 12:45PM
                                                                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - guitarguitar, 15 Aug 01:04PM
                                                                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Rob Tuley, 15 Aug 07:12PM

Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by tylerama - 19 Jun 06:56PM
Hello out there,

I am wondering if there are Sibelius files of major orchestral pieces available for download anywhere. I've been using Sibelius for a while now to draw up charts for various bands, and recently used it for some symphonic orchestrating. It occurred to me that it would be incredibly helpful to have some Beethoven, or Tchaikovsky, or Copland or Debussy or whoever, loaded into Sibelius so I could solo various instruments and sections to learn how various effects are achieved. Any ideas?

Thanks!

Bob C, New York

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Jesper Elén - 19 Jun 07:01PM
You might check for musicxml files than can be imported in Sibelius 7.

http://www.makemusic.com/musicxml/music

Jesper

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Bob Porter - 19 Jun 10:49PM
Seems to me that xml or midi would be the way to go.

However, if you want a real educational experience, there are many sites that offer PDFs of major works. Load them into photoscore. You'll learn a lot from going through each line to correct mistakes. Then put them into Sibelius. I've done this with a few Mozart things.

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Loch - 19 Jun 11:56PM
tylerama - that's a great idea Bob has, and it IS very educational. After you finish, please make them available to the rest of us. If you started with Schubert's 9th followed by Bartok's Concerto for Orch. that would be great. :-| Maybe some Mahler after that. We could have you entered in the Sibelius Hall of Fame. Wait a minute, forget it, I just thought of a way to make a few bucks. Never mind.
;-)

Good Luck

ps - I'm sure there are some out there, just behind firewalls at sheet music publishing houses. This just tells you that you ARE using the best software.

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Peter Roos - 20 Jun 12:06AM
The Petrucci Music Library is an excellent free resource for hundreds of thousands of public domain scores:

http://imslp.org/


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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Richard Hatton - 20 Jun 09:09AM
As Peter says the Petrucci library is a great source for out of copyright material - I have used it many times for making wind arrangements - but beware the PDF's are of a variable quality - some need to be entered manually while others will respond quite well to Photoscore. Some of the PDF's have even been generated from a re-score in Sibelius!

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by tylerama - 20 Jun 03:53PM
Thank you all...looks like the first thing to do is learn how to use PhotoScore, yes?

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Loch - 21 Jun 12:56AM
Yes, and I think the tutorial example gives a good start. As mentioned, it's a learning experience, since many notations will not come across well. If you know the score already by ear, that will help you get started correcting after you get it playing, if not, it could be a bit painstaking.

Good Luck

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by almound - 17 Jun 10:23PM
Those Beethoven symphony scores at imslp.org that are "typeset," not scanned, will import into Photoscore more readily than will mere PDF scans of a paper document. Look for those scores typeset by the CCARH (Center for Computer Assisted Research in the Humanities).

The CCARH has also typeset the Haydn symphonies, numbers 93 - 104, as well.

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by David Ross - 18 Jun 12:46AM
Just a reminder . . . some of the works you quote may still be in copyright. Many of the Russian works (e.g., early Stravinsky and others) that were for many years public domain have been plunged back into copyright (at least in the U.S.).

For example, Stravinsky's L'Histoire du Soldat (important for bassoonists like me) was available from a number of sources for many years became available in the U.S. only as a rental.

It's good to check, and, if you are making a book of excerpts, you might get permission from the publisher.

David

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Jesper Elén - 18 Jun 06:37AM
>For example, Stravinsky's L'Histoire du Soldat (important for bassoonists like me)

And for percussion players. First piece where one player plays several instruments.

Jesper

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by phidler - 24 Aug 09:20PM
Nobody has actually answered the original question, though, which was not "where can you find PDF scores online," but rather, whether there's a good online repository of scores in .sib format. I have the same question.

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Mike Lyons - 24 Aug 09:55PM
Go to ScoreExchange and contact the people who are offering pdf scores for sale. They may be willing to talk to you if you ask them nicely.

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Dennis Larson - 31 Aug 01:11AM
imslp.org DOES have Sibelius files for many scores... but not for everything. You could contribute by typesetting a PDF file into Sibelius and posting it. Eventually this could be a very complete repository -- but it's a work in progress. Same with cpdl.org for choral music.

We're all in this together!


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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by guitarguitar - 15 Aug 12:43PM
testing reply as it left site

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by guitarguitar - 15 Aug 12:45PM
I did a quick search on the imslp.org site and found no Sibelius files..only pdfs. Please send example title or link or perhaps how you would search for sib. files on such a large site. All I found were pdfs....

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by guitarguitar - 15 Aug 01:04PM
Dennis have you actually looked for a Sibelius file on the imslp.org site or are you just assuming? I have searched now for quite a while and found none. If you have specific examples please give.

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Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral Works
Posted by Rob Tuley - 15 Aug 07:12PM (edited 15 Aug 07:13PM)
I'm also surprised by the statement that there are "many" Sib files on IMSLP. A few Lilypond and Finale, but I don't think I have ever seen a .sib file.

There are certainly PDFs that look like they were created in Sibelius, but that isn't what was asked for.

But anything on IMSLP that is not a professionally published edition is "use at your own risk" IMO. IMSLP doesn't impose any editorial quality control on the content that is uploaded.

Of course there are plenty of professional editions on IMSLP that have typos on every page as well!

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Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchestral ... - tylerama, 19 Jun 06:56PM
     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Jesper Elén, 19 Jun 07:01PM
         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Bob Porter, 19 Jun 10:49PM
             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Loch, 19 Jun 11:56PM
                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Peter Roos, 20 Jun 12:06AM
                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Richard Hatton, 20 Jun 09:09AM
                         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - tylerama, 20 Jun 03:53PM
                             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Loch, 21 Jun 12:56AM
                                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - almound, 17 Jun 10:23PM
                                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - David Ross, 18 Jun 12:46AM
                                         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Jesper Elén, 18 Jun 06:37AM
                                             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - phidler, 24 Aug 09:20PM
                                                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Mike Lyons, 24 Aug 09:55PM
                                                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Dennis Larson, 31 Aug 01:11AM
                                                         Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - guitarguitar, 15 Aug 12:43PM
                                                             Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - guitarguitar, 15 Aug 12:45PM
                                                                 Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - guitarguitar, 15 Aug 01:04PM
                                                                     Re: Looking For Sibelius Files Of Major Orchest... - Rob Tuley, 15 Aug 07:12PM