'Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback'

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Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) durin... - Voight-Kampff, 11 Nov 11:46PM
     Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Daniel Spreadbury, 13 Nov 07:41PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Voight-Kampff, 13 Nov 08:30PM
             Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robert Weiss, 15 Nov 03:59PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robert Weiss, 15 Nov 04:48PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 28 Feb 04:40PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robin Walker, 28 Feb 05:54PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 28 Feb 06:20PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 28 Feb 06:51PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robin Walker, 28 Feb 10:16PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 02 Mar 03:47AM

Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Voight-Kampff - 11 Nov 11:46PM (edited 12 Nov 01:12AM)
Hi,

My Sibelius v7.0.3 is occasionally playing the wrong pitch when in playback mode. Right now I've got an orchestral-type score where two trumpets should be playing Bb4 and Db5 (non transposed), when they are in fact playing Bb4 and B4. I've tried changing the written notes to Bb4 and D5 in which case Sibelius played them back as written. I've had this problem before in the woodwinds, but just ended up rearranging the voices. At this point I'm getting slightly annoyed.

Has anyone else run into this? Are there solutions?

Edit: I've discovered that changing from Sibelius 7 Lite to Full removes the problem, but my laptop crashes when using the full soundset. Will I have to wait for an update or can I edit something myself?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 13 Nov 07:41PM
You can't edit this yourself, but I can send you a replacement .patch file that will take care of the problem. You'll need to replace the corresponding file in /Library/Application Support/Avid/Sibelius Sounds/Sibelius 7 Sounds/Brass.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Voight-Kampff - 13 Nov 08:30PM
Thank you very much, Daniel. As far as i can tell that patch solved my problems. :)

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Robert Weiss - 15 Nov 03:59PM
I'm having the same problem. One Bb trumpet pitch (concert D) is playing back a dissonant 2nd. I have deleted the measures and rewritten the music, but this doesn't fix the problem.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Robert Weiss - 15 Nov 04:48PM
> I'm having the same problem. One Bb trumpet pitch (concert D) is playing back a dissonant 2nd. I have deleted the measures and rewritten the music, but this doesn't fix the problem.


Thanks for the patch. This fixed the problem.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Doodad - 28 Feb 04:40PM
I'm having the same problem with a simple piano piece. Right hand has two octave Eb's and all I get is a C. The same two Eb's later in the same measure play correctly. The right hand of the measure also plays correctly if I REMOVE the left hand (which of course makes the piece less interesting). This one is on Windows 7.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 28 Feb 05:54PM
Doodad, what version of Sibelius are you using? Please attach the Sibelius .sib score file in question. Do you have a MIDI keyboard attached to your PC? Try removing it before starting playback.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Doodad - 28 Feb 06:20PM
Sibelius 7 First, v7.1.3 build 78, interfacing with Vienna Instruments. No MIDI or any other peripherals.
Attachment Maple Leaf Rag.sib (32K)

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Doodad - 28 Feb 06:51PM
The V.I. piano "looks" like it is playing the right notes, but it's not what I'm hearing. Slowing the tempo to the slowest possible, it sounds like the higher Eb of the first Eb octave in the right hand appears to be lowered to the next C.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Robin Walker - 28 Feb 10:16PM
Doodad, I wonder if you are hearing the audio equivalent of an optical illusion? Maybe the notes in the bass clef (which include a 'C') are beating with the notes in the treble clef to make you think you are hearing a higher-octave 'C'?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) during playback
Posted by Doodad - 02 Mar 03:47AM
Looks like you're right, it's harmonics. I changed the left hand chord in the second beat of the measure to a staccato 16th and I can now hear the octave Eb in the right hand.

Thanks for the assist.

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Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) durin... - Voight-Kampff, 11 Nov 11:46PM
     Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Daniel Spreadbury, 13 Nov 07:41PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Voight-Kampff, 13 Nov 08:30PM
             Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robert Weiss, 15 Nov 03:59PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robert Weiss, 15 Nov 04:48PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 28 Feb 04:40PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robin Walker, 28 Feb 05:54PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 28 Feb 06:20PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 28 Feb 06:51PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Robin Walker, 28 Feb 10:16PM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Playing the wrong notes (pitch) d... - Doodad, 02 Mar 03:47AM