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Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String N... - Craig, 22 Sep 05:08PM
     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Scott Cameron, 22 Sep 08:59PM
         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bruno Jundt, 22 Sep 09:54PM
             Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Craig, 22 Sep 10:20PM
                 Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Scott Cameron, 22 Sep 10:27PM
                     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - James, 23 Sep 05:31AM
                         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - telerious, 23 Sep 05:23PM
     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - telerious, 23 Sep 05:33PM
         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Wim Hoogewerf, 23 Sep 06:45PM
             Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Scott Cameron, 23 Sep 07:36PM
                 Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 26 Sep 06:02AM
                     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Fredrik, 10 Apr 03:35PM
                         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 10 Apr 05:06PM
                             Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Fredrik, 10 Apr 08:29PM
                                 Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - James, 17 Apr 01:48PM
                                     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 17 Apr 04:55PM
                                         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 17 Apr 10:21PM

Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Craig - 22 Sep 05:08PM
Hi,

Can anyone tell me how to input guitar fingering and string fingering numbers.

I have the notation done but I need to input what fingers to use on the specific strings.

I'm running Sib 6.2 and Win 7 Pro.

Thanks

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Scott Cameron - 22 Sep 08:59PM (edited 22 Sep 10:04PM)
Text>Other Staff Text>Fingering [you can assign a shortcut].

Symbols [shortcut z] about a third of the way down for string numbers.

-edited to reverse 'n' and 'g' in 'assign'!!!

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Bruno Jundt - 22 Sep 09:54PM
For guitar fingering (left and right hand) I strongly recommend Bob Zawalich's Plug-In "Add fingering": a masterpiece!!

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Bruno Jundt Sib. 6.2 Mac mini OS 10.5.8

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Craig - 22 Sep 10:20PM
Thx.

How do you get Bob Zawalich's Plug-In "Add Finerging"?

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Scott Cameron - 22 Sep 10:27PM
http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?versionname=8&category=13

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by James - 23 Sep 05:31AM
What's the best way to horizontally spread the notes in preparation for the fingering?

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by telerious - 23 Sep 05:23PM
I find it best to enter the fingering and then drag it between the notes. The program makes justifies the noteheads so it works.

David

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by telerious - 23 Sep 05:33PM
How do you assign a shortcut to the symbols for strings 1-6 on guitar. I found the circled numbers under symbols and guitar but I am lost as to how I assign a shortcut. Help!

Thanks in advance,
David

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Wim Hoogewerf - 23 Sep 06:45PM
Unfortunately, you can't create a shortcut for a symbol. Sibelius 7 now has the advantage to make all symbols appear on top of the panel once they're used. This makes it much more faster to enter them than in Sibelius 6.

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Scott Cameron - 23 Sep 07:36PM
>How do you assign a shortcut to the symbols for strings 1-6 on guitar. I found the circled numbers under symbols and guitar but I am lost as to how I assign a shortcut.

To make string numbers faster to access, you can create a new text style (House Style>Edit Text Styles>New in Sib 6) that will put a circle around numbers. If you fiddle with the parameters, you can match the string number symbols quite closely. Then assign a shortcut to that new text style. The advantage of string numbers as text is that you can call them up with one keystroke and edit them by clicking on them [changing the number and so on]. See attachment.
Bob Zawalich has a plug-in for accessing symbols, but as I recall, it required more that one keystroke [and I can't remember the name of it, sorry).
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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 26 Sep 06:02AM
The Add Fingering to Notes plugin has an option to add the string numbers as well. However, it is somewhat font dependent and sometimes does not work on Macs.

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Bob

Sib 1.2 - 7, Windows 7 Pro SP 1 64 bit, 4 G RAM. Year 2011.
I am an experienced Sibelius user, but am not affiliated with Sibelius Software.
Sib Plugin downloads: www.sibelius.com/download/plugins (see How to Install Plugins; use Vista for Windows 7)
Alphabetical plugin lists: www.bobzawalich.com/DownloadPagePlugins.htm, www.bobzawalich.com/Sib6ShippingPlugins.htm
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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Fredrik - 10 Apr 03:35PM
I think my mac is confusing the number pad in bobs plugin with the number pad in sibelius, (the one for editing note length etc.)
When I put in circled numbers other symbols show up. Left hand fingering works though.
Any one come across this problem?

Fred.

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 10 Apr 05:06PM
There are font issues in using symbol fonts as text characters, as the Add Fingerings To Notes plugin does. I did not have the problem on the Windows machine I developed the plugin on, but it shows up in Macs.

I think we fixed this in Sib 7+, where the plugin ships with Sibelius but we could not change it in Sib 6.

You can download and install Add Circled Number Symbols To Notes (http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?plugin=388), which uses symbols rather than text and thus avoids the problem, though you have fewer options for resizing.

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Bob

An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2017.
For plugin categories see http://www.sibeliusblog.com/tips/sibelius-download-page-plug-ins/
For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Fredrik - 10 Apr 08:29PM
I didn't know it was already in my sib 8.5. I removed the newly installed plugin and now the problem is gone. Thank you.

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by James - 17 Apr 01:48PM (edited 17 Apr 01:55PM)
As mentioned above, use the plugin Add Fingering To Notes, to add the fingering numbers. For circled numbers, use the plugin: Add Circled Number Symbols To Notes. For spacing the music wider to accommodate the fingering and circled number symbols, I just manually add line breaks by selecting a bar line and hitting return and then I manually tweak the spacing by selecting a note and hitting shift-alt left or right arrow to nudge it. Although I've tried editing the Note Spacing Rule, I continue to use the defaults and manually tweak.

If you have font problems, use Applications/Font Book to remove all duplicates and restart the mac. (Font Book is an Apple application.)

(Sorry for the delayed response. I was away hiking in Utah for the week. Zion, Bryce Canyon, and more were spectacular!)

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Mac OS 10.12 Sierra
Sibelius 6.2

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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 17 Apr 04:55PM
If you are using Sibelius 7.1.3 or later, you should not need to use Add Circled Number Symbols for Notes. The Std fonts that were made available in Sib 7+ contain circled numbers and they should work fine. Just use the version of Add Fingering To Notes that ships with Sibelius, and the circled numbers should appear correctly.

Add Circled Number Symbols for Notes is needed for Sib 6, though.

Another problem with Add Fingering to Notes in Sib 7+ is that you can't type numbers into the plugin keypad unless you do it quite slowly. We used a trick in Sib 6 that no longer works in Sib 7 to handle keystrokes.

I recommend that if you use the plugin you should click the buttons with the mouse rather than typing.

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Bob

An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2017.
For plugin categories see http://www.nycmusicservices.com/musicresources
For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install
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Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String Numbers
Posted by Bob Zawalich - 17 Apr 10:21PM
The problem with typing in Add Fingering to Notes is discussed in more detail here:
http://www.sibelius.com/cgi-bin/helpcenter/chat/chat.pl?com=thread&start=689196&groupid=3&words=fingering&name=bob%20zawalich

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Bob

An experienced user of Sibelius. Sib 1.2 - 8, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, 32 G RAM. Year 2017.
For plugin categories see http://www.nycmusicservices.com/musicresources
For manual plugin installation see http://www.sibelius.com/download/plugins/index.html?help=install

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Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and String N... - Craig, 22 Sep 05:08PM
     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Scott Cameron, 22 Sep 08:59PM
         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bruno Jundt, 22 Sep 09:54PM
             Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Craig, 22 Sep 10:20PM
                 Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Scott Cameron, 22 Sep 10:27PM
                     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - James, 23 Sep 05:31AM
                         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - telerious, 23 Sep 05:23PM
     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - telerious, 23 Sep 05:33PM
         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Wim Hoogewerf, 23 Sep 06:45PM
             Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Scott Cameron, 23 Sep 07:36PM
                 Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 26 Sep 06:02AM
                     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Fredrik, 10 Apr 03:35PM
                         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 10 Apr 05:06PM
                             Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Fredrik, 10 Apr 08:29PM
                                 Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - James, 17 Apr 01:48PM
                                     Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 17 Apr 04:55PM
                                         Re: Sib. 6.x: Guitar Fingering Numbers and Stri... - Bob Zawalich, 17 Apr 10:21PM