'Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7'

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Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7 - Bruno Raberg, 04 Sep 01:55PM
     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Laurence Payne, 04 Sep 02:57PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 12 Sep 10:35PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - David Buley, 11 Nov 05:29PM
             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 11 Nov 09:42PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - jnebi, 19 Feb 05:02PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Jeremy Hughes, 19 Feb 05:25PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 19 Feb 06:21PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - made in england, 09 Oct 10:30PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - JohnnyHands, 19 Oct 11:46PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Russell D, 20 Oct 12:06AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 20 Oct 08:47AM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - mschutz, 25 Oct 08:18PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Roy Moore, 25 Oct 08:42PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - mschutz, 25 Oct 08:44PM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 26 Oct 06:23AM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - KenPalmer, 09 Sep 02:04AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Ronald Pearl, 09 Sep 03:23AM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - KenPalmer, 12 Sep 03:21AM
                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 05 Sep 08:58PM
                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Robin Walker, 05 Sep 09:11PM
                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 06 Sep 06:43AM

Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Bruno Raberg - 04 Sep 01:55PM
I can not for my life figure out how to make a tempo change for playback?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Laurence Payne - 04 Sep 02:57PM
The old Transport window is still available, with its quick-and-dirty tempo slider. Turn it on in the View tab.

Be grateful it's ALL still available. If it had been treated like the Properties window (now the Inspector) it would have included only functions not available on the Ribbon. So you'd have had to go one place for the main Transport controls, another for the Tempo and Location sliders.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel formerly at Sibelius - 12 Sep 10:35PM
The best way to make a tempo change for playback, of course, is to write a Tempo text instruction or a Metronome mark in the score.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by David Buley - 11 Nov 05:29PM
some of us don;t have an actual tempo in mind as we write - then want to sort out something in playback. the new Sib 7 'look' is so radically altered - I hope I'll get used to it eventually. What WAS the rationale for this?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel formerly at Sibelius - 11 Nov 09:42PM
David, the Transport window is still there, so if you're desperate to adjust the tempo by dragging the tempo slider, you can. Not so different after all.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by jnebi - 19 Feb 05:02PM
Daniel, there is a defensive tone to your responses, as if you know better than the customer how he or she should be working. I am in software support myself, and that is considered bad form at my company.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Jeremy Hughes - 19 Feb 05:25PM
...and of course, public chastisement is good form.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel formerly at Sibelius - 19 Feb 06:21PM
It seems a bit odd to dredge up this post from a few months ago just to take a shot at me, but if my response to somebody else caused you any offence, please accept my apologies.

My role is not actually in customer support, but I do the best that I can here on this forum and by email. If you're not keen on my help, fortunately we do have an expert and dedicated team of technical support people, whom you can reach via our online support centre, or by phone if you wish.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by made in england - 09 Oct 10:30PM
How to change the tempo.
Double click on the tempo marking where it shows "quarter note = 100"
and a cursor appears, use the backspace to remove the number and type in a new one, click anywhere on the page or in a blank space off the page and you will see the tempo marking in the transport bar change, this will now affect all export or save choices.-easy!

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by JohnnyHands - 19 Oct 11:46PM
I'm trying to set a beginning tempo of 155, and a tempo change in the middle of 85 and it's not working. Here's what I'm doing:

1) selecting the menu item Create -> Text -> Tempo, (or using Mac shortcut key sequence, option-cmd-T)

2) Then clicking above the bar, at the top of the score where I want the tempo marking to go,

==> then I see a blinking cursor

3) Bring up the contextual menu (on a Mac, that's a control click) and scroll down to the quarter not symbol in the menu, then release

==> then I see a quarter note symbol in the score

4) typing a space, then an equal sign, then another space, then the tempo number desired,then hitting return

THE PROBLEM: when I playback, these newly entered tempos are ignored - and the tempo in the Playback window is the one is adhered to.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Russell D - 20 Oct 12:06AM
No spaces.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel formerly at Sibelius - 20 Oct 08:47AM
Attach your score here, JohnnyHands, so nobody has to guess. Perhaps you have Live Tempo switched on? Or perhaps it's something else? If you attach it here, we'll be able to tell you in a minute or two.

And there's nothing wrong with including spaces in tempo marks. That's how it's done in published music, and it works absolutely fine in Sibelius.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by mschutz - 25 Oct 08:18PM
Hello - I'm on 7.1.3, and having the same problem. I've got proper tempo marks in a score, but the transport panel slider is the only thing that's affecting the playback. As far as I can tell there are no hidden tempo markings or anything.

I don't care about visuals on this score, since the purpose is to export audio files for the SATB parts. So I need the tempos to play back properly.

Daniel, or someone, can you help? I'm attaching the score for your reference.
Attachment LSB 656 - A Mighty Fortress - Luther.sib (77K)

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Roy Moore - 25 Oct 08:42PM (edited 25 Oct 08:47PM)
Johnny Hands

Your metronome mark is in Technique text.
Re-enter as Tempo Text or Metronome Mark Text

If you right click on the text then look in 'Text' (in Ribbon) it will show which Text has been used.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by mschutz - 25 Oct 08:44PM (edited 25 Oct 08:45PM)
Hi again - just an update - I just solved my own problem.

I discovered something a little odd - Sib. would recognize the first marking in a score, but not subsequent ones. But then I realized I had input the subsequent ones using Ctrl-T, not Ctrl-Alt-T or the right-click method. Therefore Sib. was treating it as a Technique, not a Tempo, and thus would display it but not play it back properly.

For whatever reason I thought the shortcut was Ctrl-T. Not sure if this would solve others' problems, but I was experiencing the exact same thing, and it was my own fault. (I'm also not sure this would be detectable in an existing score, for troubleshooting/uploading, I mean...)

Hopefully others can learn from my mistake.

(edit - Roy beat me to it - it is detectable, apparently. :) )

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 26 Oct 06:23AM
Try going into panorama view, selecting any piece of technique (or other) text. Press [ctrl][shift]a and you will see all other items of te same text style highlighted. That way, you can check visually what text is in which style for the whole of a staff.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by KenPalmer - 09 Sep 02:04AM
I have Sibelius 7.1.3 and am trying to slow down the playback speed. The Play tab appears to lack a setting for this.

After reading the comment above about a "Transport window", selecting the View tab shows several options, but nothing labeled "Transport". Am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Ronald Pearl - 09 Sep 03:23AM
Look under View - that is where all the windows go to rest. Transport is on the right. But one would think it would be under Play; it shows that the Ribbon is not as intuitive as some have asserted...

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by KenPalmer - 12 Sep 03:21AM
Thanks Ron. I see what you mean. It's hidden under the square purple Panels button, where there is a check-box to select Transport. What is nice is that you can type "transport" in the search bar and that control appears.

I'm a software engineer, and thought the same thing about that control not appearing under the Play tab. The Play ribbon already has a full set of buttons, so that may have been shifted to View due to screen real estate.

Despite little annoyances like this, Sibelius is amazing software.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 05 Sep 08:58PM
I have 90 BPM as a text temp and 88 in the transport menu. It will only let me slide from 88 directly to 100+ with the slider. Why is there not more control with the slider? Why can I not select 90 BPM? - Jay

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Robin Walker - 05 Sep 09:11PM
> I have 90 BPM as a text temp and 88 in the transport menu.

Are you sure that the text is in Tempo style, or Metronome Mark style? If you have a correct tempo text for 90 BPM, then the transport menu will show 90 BPM.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 06 Sep 06:43AM
As has often been said, that slider is only for testing tempos, it is NOT meant to be used as a speed control.

If you have put in a metronome mark or tempo text and sib is not playing back at the speed you set, I would check a couple of things -
is there another item of tempo text being interpreted after your tempo setting (Moderato or other Italian term or even an English or German version of the same.)Is your TS simple or compound? =60 will give a different result if the TS is compound.

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Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7 - Bruno Raberg, 04 Sep 01:55PM
     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Laurence Payne, 04 Sep 02:57PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 12 Sep 10:35PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - David Buley, 11 Nov 05:29PM
             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 11 Nov 09:42PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - jnebi, 19 Feb 05:02PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Jeremy Hughes, 19 Feb 05:25PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 19 Feb 06:21PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - made in england, 09 Oct 10:30PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - JohnnyHands, 19 Oct 11:46PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Russell D, 20 Oct 12:06AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel formerly at Sibelius, 20 Oct 08:47AM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - mschutz, 25 Oct 08:18PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Roy Moore, 25 Oct 08:42PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - mschutz, 25 Oct 08:44PM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 26 Oct 06:23AM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - KenPalmer, 09 Sep 02:04AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Ronald Pearl, 09 Sep 03:23AM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - KenPalmer, 12 Sep 03:21AM
                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 05 Sep 08:58PM
                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Robin Walker, 05 Sep 09:11PM
                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 06 Sep 06:43AM