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Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7 - Bruno Raberg, 04 Sep 01:55PM
     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Laurence Payne, 04 Sep 02:57PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel Spreadbury, 12 Sep 10:35PM
         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - David Buley, 11 Nov 05:29PM
             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel Spreadbury, 11 Nov 09:42PM
                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - jnebi, 19 Feb 05:02PM
                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Jody Hughes, 19 Feb 05:25PM
                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel Spreadbury, 19 Feb 06:21PM
                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - made in england, 09 Oct 10:30PM
                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - JohnnyHands, 19 Oct 11:46PM
                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Russell D, 20 Oct 12:06AM
                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Daniel Spreadbury, 20 Oct 08:47AM
                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - mschutz, 25 Oct 08:18PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Roy Moore, 25 Oct 08:42PM
                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - mschutz, 25 Oct 08:44PM
                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 26 Oct 06:23AM
                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - KenPalmer, 09 Sep 02:04AM
                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Ronald Pearl, 09 Sep 03:23AM
                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - KenPalmer, 12 Sep 03:21AM
                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 05 Sep 08:58PM
                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Robin Walker, 05 Sep 09:11PM
                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 06 Sep 06:43AM
                                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 15 Feb 01:15AM
                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 15 Feb 08:44AM
                                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 15 Feb 06:33PM
                                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 15 Feb 06:47PM
                                                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 15 Feb 06:48PM
                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 16 Feb 09:09AM
                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 16 Feb 10:43PM
                                                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Jody Hughes, 16 Feb 11:13PM
                                                                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 17 Feb 12:02AM
                                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Jody Hughes, 17 Feb 06:13AM
                                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 17 Feb 11:18PM
                                                                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Jody Hughes, 17 Feb 11:39PM
                                                                                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 18 Feb 08:18AM
                                                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Jody Hughes, 18 Feb 09:47AM
                                                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Richard JAY Terrien, 01 Mar 03:08AM
                                                                                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Robin Walker, 01 Mar 09:44AM
                                                                                                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - John Mahony, 22 Oct 04:34PM
                                                                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Robin Walker, 22 Oct 05:41PM
                                                                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Donal, 30 Apr 01:36PM
                                                                                                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Adrian Drover, 30 Apr 03:26PM
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Donal, 30 Apr 05:09PM
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Adrian Drover, 30 Apr 06:46PM
                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 30 Apr 09:13PM
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Adrian Drover, 01 May 09:08AM
                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 01 May 11:38AM
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Adrian Drover, 01 May 12:49PM
                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Geoff Davey, 01 May 11:21PM
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibe... - Mike Lyons, 02 May 06:32AM

Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Bruno Raberg - 04 Sep 01:55PM
I can not for my life figure out how to make a tempo change for playback?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Laurence Payne - 04 Sep 02:57PM
The old Transport window is still available, with its quick-and-dirty tempo slider. Turn it on in the View tab.

Be grateful it's ALL still available. If it had been treated like the Properties window (now the Inspector) it would have included only functions not available on the Ribbon. So you'd have had to go one place for the main Transport controls, another for the Tempo and Location sliders.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 12 Sep 10:35PM
The best way to make a tempo change for playback, of course, is to write a Tempo text instruction or a Metronome mark in the score.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by David Buley - 11 Nov 05:29PM
some of us don;t have an actual tempo in mind as we write - then want to sort out something in playback. the new Sib 7 'look' is so radically altered - I hope I'll get used to it eventually. What WAS the rationale for this?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 11 Nov 09:42PM
David, the Transport window is still there, so if you're desperate to adjust the tempo by dragging the tempo slider, you can. Not so different after all.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by jnebi - 19 Feb 05:02PM
Daniel, there is a defensive tone to your responses, as if you know better than the customer how he or she should be working. I am in software support myself, and that is considered bad form at my company.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Jody Hughes - 19 Feb 05:25PM
...and of course, public chastisement is good form.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 19 Feb 06:21PM
It seems a bit odd to dredge up this post from a few months ago just to take a shot at me, but if my response to somebody else caused you any offence, please accept my apologies.

My role is not actually in customer support, but I do the best that I can here on this forum and by email. If you're not keen on my help, fortunately we do have an expert and dedicated team of technical support people, whom you can reach via our online support centre, or by phone if you wish.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by made in england - 09 Oct 10:30PM
How to change the tempo.
Double click on the tempo marking where it shows "quarter note = 100"
and a cursor appears, use the backspace to remove the number and type in a new one, click anywhere on the page or in a blank space off the page and you will see the tempo marking in the transport bar change, this will now affect all export or save choices.-easy!

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by JohnnyHands - 19 Oct 11:46PM
I'm trying to set a beginning tempo of 155, and a tempo change in the middle of 85 and it's not working. Here's what I'm doing:

1) selecting the menu item Create -> Text -> Tempo, (or using Mac shortcut key sequence, option-cmd-T)

2) Then clicking above the bar, at the top of the score where I want the tempo marking to go,

==> then I see a blinking cursor

3) Bring up the contextual menu (on a Mac, that's a control click) and scroll down to the quarter not symbol in the menu, then release

==> then I see a quarter note symbol in the score

4) typing a space, then an equal sign, then another space, then the tempo number desired,then hitting return

THE PROBLEM: when I playback, these newly entered tempos are ignored - and the tempo in the Playback window is the one is adhered to.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Russell D - 20 Oct 12:06AM
No spaces.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 20 Oct 08:47AM
Attach your score here, JohnnyHands, so nobody has to guess. Perhaps you have Live Tempo switched on? Or perhaps it's something else? If you attach it here, we'll be able to tell you in a minute or two.

And there's nothing wrong with including spaces in tempo marks. That's how it's done in published music, and it works absolutely fine in Sibelius.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by mschutz - 25 Oct 08:18PM
Hello - I'm on 7.1.3, and having the same problem. I've got proper tempo marks in a score, but the transport panel slider is the only thing that's affecting the playback. As far as I can tell there are no hidden tempo markings or anything.

I don't care about visuals on this score, since the purpose is to export audio files for the SATB parts. So I need the tempos to play back properly.

Daniel, or someone, can you help? I'm attaching the score for your reference.
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Roy Moore - 25 Oct 08:42PM (edited 25 Oct 08:47PM)
Johnny Hands

Your metronome mark is in Technique text.
Re-enter as Tempo Text or Metronome Mark Text

If you right click on the text then look in 'Text' (in Ribbon) it will show which Text has been used.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by mschutz - 25 Oct 08:44PM (edited 25 Oct 08:45PM)
Hi again - just an update - I just solved my own problem.

I discovered something a little odd - Sib. would recognize the first marking in a score, but not subsequent ones. But then I realized I had input the subsequent ones using Ctrl-T, not Ctrl-Alt-T or the right-click method. Therefore Sib. was treating it as a Technique, not a Tempo, and thus would display it but not play it back properly.

For whatever reason I thought the shortcut was Ctrl-T. Not sure if this would solve others' problems, but I was experiencing the exact same thing, and it was my own fault. (I'm also not sure this would be detectable in an existing score, for troubleshooting/uploading, I mean...)

Hopefully others can learn from my mistake.

(edit - Roy beat me to it - it is detectable, apparently. :) )

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 26 Oct 06:23AM
Try going into panorama view, selecting any piece of technique (or other) text. Press [ctrl][shift]a and you will see all other items of te same text style highlighted. That way, you can check visually what text is in which style for the whole of a staff.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by KenPalmer - 09 Sep 02:04AM
I have Sibelius 7.1.3 and am trying to slow down the playback speed. The Play tab appears to lack a setting for this.

After reading the comment above about a "Transport window", selecting the View tab shows several options, but nothing labeled "Transport". Am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Ronald Pearl - 09 Sep 03:23AM
Look under View - that is where all the windows go to rest. Transport is on the right. But one would think it would be under Play; it shows that the Ribbon is not as intuitive as some have asserted...

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by KenPalmer - 12 Sep 03:21AM
Thanks Ron. I see what you mean. It's hidden under the square purple Panels button, where there is a check-box to select Transport. What is nice is that you can type "transport" in the search bar and that control appears.

I'm a software engineer, and thought the same thing about that control not appearing under the Play tab. The Play ribbon already has a full set of buttons, so that may have been shifted to View due to screen real estate.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 05 Sep 08:58PM
I have 90 BPM as a text temp and 88 in the transport menu. It will only let me slide from 88 directly to 100+ with the slider. Why is there not more control with the slider? Why can I not select 90 BPM? - Jay

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Robin Walker - 05 Sep 09:11PM
> I have 90 BPM as a text temp and 88 in the transport menu.

Are you sure that the text is in Tempo style, or Metronome Mark style? If you have a correct tempo text for 90 BPM, then the transport menu will show 90 BPM.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 06 Sep 06:43AM
As has often been said, that slider is only for testing tempos, it is NOT meant to be used as a speed control.

If you have put in a metronome mark or tempo text and sib is not playing back at the speed you set, I would check a couple of things -
is there another item of tempo text being interpreted after your tempo setting (Moderato or other Italian term or even an English or German version of the same.)Is your TS simple or compound? =60 will give a different result if the TS is compound.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 15 Feb 01:15AM
Hi,

I am working on a session in Pro Tools where I have my tempo set up at 210 BPM with ¼ notes getting the beat in a time signature of 13/2.

However, I am unable to make this exact tempo and meter work together in Sibelius. I have the meter set up as 13/2 with a tempo text box above the key signature set to ¼ note = 201. But it doesn’t sound right at all. The Transport tempo slider won’t let me type in 13/2, 201. It only lets me slide up to 176 BPM with the ½ note getting the pulse.

Is there another way to make the Transport tempo slider work for me, so that I can go back and forth from Sibelius and Pro Tools with the same click seamless track feel?

Thanks!! ;)

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 15 Feb 08:44AM (edited 15 Feb 08:45AM)
If you set a ts of 13/2, then sib wil correctly interpret that as a minim pulse. That's what the TS does.

Setting BPM as q=201 will make the actual tempo h=100.5.

The tempo slider was only ever intended as a quick and dirty auditioning device. It should not be used for determining playback tempo.

Try using q=402 as a tempo mark.

Tempo box? What is that?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 15 Feb 06:33PM
I'd like to bypass the tempo slider totally.

All I am trying to do is get my score to playback the exact same way my Pro Tools session plays back. This is so that I can work back and forth between both sessions seamlessly, but not "together", as in, exporting Pro Tools data to Sibelius.

I still cannot set the Tempo slider to this. Is there a menu to access where I can manually type in the tempo and meter?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 15 Feb 06:47PM
I've attached two screenshots so you can see what's going on better. :)
Attachment JT Pro Tools 1.jpg (47K)

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 15 Feb 06:48PM
Attachment JT Sibelius.jpg (188K)

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 16 Feb 09:09AM
You can't bypass the tempo slider. Set it to the middle (I think a double click will do it) so that the transport panel displays the actual BPM in the tempo instruction.

I cannot tell what type of text you have used for your tempo mark, but it must be a system text style - there are two text styles that were intended for tempo setting - Tempo text style and Metronome Mark (MM) text style. Other system types will also work (Boxed system text, for example) Staff text styles will NOT work (eg Lyricist).

The transport display does not display the fractional beat, but it is showing the half note pulse.

Your protools image shows quarter=201 your sibelius screenshot shows half=100. This is pretty much the same, but sibelius does not show the 0.5 beat.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 16 Feb 10:43PM
This is what I mean Mike. Why can't both platforms be precise?

The tempo of 201 was input into the score right when I created a new score and entered it into the vacant tempo field within the Time Signature Set-up menu.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Jody Hughes - 16 Feb 11:13PM
Hi

I think the transport window display rounds the true metronome mark to a whole number, but the actual tempo (in your case half = 201) is respected by the playback engine.

I tested this for a similar query several versions ago, and found this to be true, but I've not checked in later versions, though I can't imagine it has changed.

Hope that helps
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 17 Feb 12:02AM
Is there a way to change the tempo to 1/8s, 1/16s, 1/2 note and have it actually play back at that in the metronome?

> Hi
>
> I think the transport window display rounds the true metronome mark to a whole number, but the actual tempo (in your case half = 201) is respected by the playback engine.
>
> I tested this for a similar query several versions ago, and found this to be true, but I've not checked in later versions, though I can't imagine it has changed.
>
> Hope that helps
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Jody Hughes - 17 Feb 06:13AM
Hi

You can type any MM in either Tempo or Metronome Mark text style and it'll play back. There's a right-click menu to get the notes, or you can type e, q, h for 8th, quarter, half. You could show e=32768 or h=3.14159 and Sibelius will play back at that speed.

Hope that's what you were asking
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 17 Feb 11:18PM
I am on a PC laptop. Are those keyboard shortcuts?

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Jody Hughes - 17 Feb 11:39PM
No, 'e=2.718' or whatever can be entered as plain text and will play back. Converting the e to an 8th note (select the e and right-click to choose the 8th note) will look better though.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 18 Feb 08:18AM (edited 18 Feb 08:19AM)
Right-click menus attached. The numbers shown as shortcuts are the ones on the number keypad, if you have one.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Jody Hughes - 18 Feb 09:47AM (edited 18 Feb 09:49AM)
Hi

Just to avoid confusion, attached is the one I was talking about: it appears when right-clicking when the Tempo text is open for editing/input. (It will be slightly different for others, as I've edited it down, and I'm on Mac).

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Richard JAY Terrien - 01 Mar 03:08AM
You guys have been incredibly helpful! Now, if I could just get this flute part to sound right. I used a text box to type in the words "FLUTTER-TONGUE" for just a few bars of music, but the only thing that plays throughout the score is flute FLUTTER-TONGUE lines. LOL. "How do I stop this crazy thing?" ;)

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Robin Walker - 01 Mar 09:44AM
Use Technique Text "nat." to revert to the default instrument articulation.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by John Mahony - 22 Oct 04:34PM
I hate to reopen an old wound, but my tempos are no longer playing what I typed in. I'm using metronome marks, but I'm using the transport window to verify. Nothing is right.
Please help. BTW, I'm fully prepared to hear that its user error.

John
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Robin Walker - 22 Oct 05:41PM
> BTW, I'm fully prepared to hear that its user error.

The score has several instances of an "accel" line which is extended and overlaps with the next metronome mark, thereby overriding the metronome mark with the final value of the "accel" (which has not been configured, either).

When using the Transport panel to monitor tempos, make sure that the temporary tempo adjustment control is at its centre position.

You can configure the final value of an accel or rit line by selecting it and opening the Inspector.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Donal - 30 Apr 01:36PM

I have set crotchet = 76 at the score beginning (I have checked it is in Metronome text). On Playback it begins at this tempo but at bar 3 tempo changes to crotchet = 56, according to the Transport panel. But I don't want the tempo to change...! File attached. Any suggestions please?
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Adrian Drover - 30 Apr 03:26PM (edited 30 Apr 03:44PM)
Yes your metronome text is attached to the 4th beat of measure 2. Better to tag it onto the end of your tempo text. Your score mended and attached to this post.

PS. If you wish to hide the metro mark, place a tilde before it in the text string. eg. "Andante con moto ~q = 76".

PPS. Interesting instrumentation. Double reed heaven?
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Donal - 30 Apr 05:09PM

Thanks Adrian.. yes, a double reed transcription for playthrough at the end of an Activity Day. Would you mind telling me the correct procedure from scratch? Should I first select the bar (first bar in my case) where I want the metro mark to apply?
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Adrian Drover - 30 Apr 06:46PM (edited 30 Apr 06:52PM)
I tried to answer your query, Donai, but I'm getting a damned access denied notice. OK, here it is in graphic form
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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 30 Apr 09:13PM (edited 30 Apr 09:15PM)
To add a tempo mark and specify an exact bpm:

Select the note where you want it to start from
Press [ctrl/cmd][alt/opt]t
Type your tempo word (eg Allegro) then a [space] then your actual MM text(eg cr = 120) If you want to hide this, place a tilde ~ before the crotchet.

Allegro ~cr = 120

crotchet symbol is obtained either from the rt-click menu or by typing [ctrl/cmd][numpad 4]

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Adrian Drover - 01 May 09:08AM
I don't think sib understands "~cr = 120" Mike, but it does understand "~q = 120" (or its music text equivalent).

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 01 May 11:38AM
I'm English. cr = crotchet!!!

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Adrian Drover - 01 May 12:49PM
True, Mike, but even tho' Sib was born in Cambridge, England, it doesn't understand English.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Geoff Davey - 01 May 11:21PM
I'm with you Mike. 40 years of teaching taught me never to underestimate my students. "Quarter note" might be simpler, but "crotchet" is more interesting and opens up a much wider view of musical history.

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Re: Sib. 7.0: Tempo change for playback in Sibelius 7
Posted by Mike Lyons - 02 May 06:32AM
Well, even though derived from a french word I'm still hooked ;-)

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