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Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 16 Nov 10:43PM
     Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 17 Nov 07:58AM
         Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Doc K, 18 Nov 11:21AM
             Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 18 Nov 05:15PM
                 Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 18 Nov 06:46PM
                     Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 19 Nov 05:07PM
                         Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 19 Nov 06:34PM
                             Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 21 Nov 12:58AM
                                 Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 21 Nov 01:39AM
     Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Gary Murway, 08 Dec 12:23AM

Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by DrBuck - 16 Nov 10:43PM
Is there a way to disable the mouse inputing feature?? I rarely use this feature and I am constantly hitting escape to get rid of the blue cursor for note inputting. thanks,DrBuck

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by Richard Vitale - 17 Nov 07:58AM
Do you have:
"Click the Mouse to position it"
Radio Button on in:
Preferences>Mouse?

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by Doc K - 18 Nov 11:21AM
This is a good question.

Could some of our esteemed experts respond, please?

Note input with the mouse has got to be the least used method. Is there a way to turn it off?

Of course I am in Sib 6, not 4.

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by DrBuck - 18 Nov 05:15PM
Richard-----No the ""Click to Position it" button is not on. It really is annoying to have the cursor go blue all the time when I am inputting notes on the keyboard. But being able to "enable copying with the Mouse" is worth its weight in gold. I use it all the time for copying and transposing from one instrument to another. ------------However, It would be nice to have an answer from sibelius Kent!!

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by Richard Vitale - 18 Nov 06:46PM (edited 18 Nov 07:28PM)
You know . . . DrBuck,

I apologize, I've never heard of this happening.

And anyone assessing this issue, from Sibelius or this chatline, I'm pretty sure, will need more information. It may be your keyboard or a certain program outside of Sibelius causing this.

Some questions come to mind:

1) Does it only happen when you type quickly on your music (or computer) keyboard?
2) Is there a series of things you can you to duplicate this act?
3) Can you tell us exactly what you are doing just before the cursor turns blue?
4) Are you on Mac or Windows?
5) What version of Sib are you on? (4, 5, or 6, just double checking, even though it reads 4 above.)
6) Is this a newly occurring problem, very recent, or have you had it since you bought Sibelius?
7) Did you upgrade recently, or install a new program or peripheral since it began?
8 How are you entering your notes? On your computer keyboard or on a music keyboard?
9) Can you plug in another computer keyboard and disconnect your current one for a day or two?
10) Are you a novice or a relatively experienced Sibelius user?

From you answer above I'm guessing you're pretty experienced.

This is an important question, because an experienced user would know that if you push "N" on the keyboard, the cursor would turn blue, but if I mentioned this to an experienced user, he'd think I was loony.

(For instance a faulty computer keyboard could cause this and a Sibelius expert might never guess.)
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I have disabled ALL note input keys on my computer keyboard, except for the letter "N" for enabling note input.

The letters: A, B, C, D, E, F, and G I've assigned to other keyboard functions.
(I've even forgotten how they work, I think you have to push "N" first, but I'm not sure.)

BTY - Looking in the manual, mouse input is naturally disabled, unless you push the Letter "N" on your keyboard. There are other ways to turn in on: Clicking on the Sibelius #1 keypad or pushing a note on you Midi Keyboard or hitting your Computer's Number Keypad (on the right). All of these will enable the Mouse Inputting Feature, and if you disable them all, you'll not be able to input music.
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I am not trying to deluge you with questions, and even with these answered, I can't imagine what the issue is, but when a question here goes unanswered it is often from lack of information.

Even the Sibelius Gods couldn't help simply knowing your cursor is turning blue. :-)

We'll need more info and hopefully someone can answer you or lead you to an answer. It really does sound like an annoying problem!

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PS - One last question please:
Is DrBuck and Kent Kersey one and the same person?

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by DrBuck - 19 Nov 05:07PM
Richard, I am using Sib 4 and have had it for several years. I have manually generated over a hundred scores during that time. I am using windows vista on my main PC at home and Windows XP on my laptop. ( I am not Kent Kersey) I have tried using photoscore to scan into Sibelius, but its Photoscore 4 and just makes a mess. I prefer entering notes by their name from the keyboard, sometimes I will copy a note from another measure and then right click it into position. I will select say, a quarter note after highlighting a measure and then name the note on the keyboard, as soon as I do that, the arrow cursor turns blue and if I need to then click on anything in the score, it adds another note rather than highlighting what I need highlighted such as a rehearsal mark. I prefer moving a previous mark and then changing it to a new value. The blue caret line must also be removed to be able to change the previous note, like adding an accent or whatever. Of course it would be better to add all the extras to a note before entering the note, but sometimes it just doesn't work that way. adding slurs or accents always requires hitting escape to change the blue arrow cursor back to white so that I can get the accessories on the correct note. Is there any way to stop this from happening?

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by Richard Vitale - 19 Nov 06:34PM (edited 20 Nov 03:20AM)
When you use Create A (or Create B, C, D, E, F, OR G) on your keypad Sibelius goes into Writing Mode, the same as if you had pushed "N" on my keyboard. It assumes you are entering more than one note.

The off switch for this IS Escape.

If you turn this OFF in Preferences you can not use A, B, C, D, E, F, OR G to enter notes at all on your computer keyboard. I don't think this is what you want.
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If you want to rename a quarter note (one note) already in you score, do NOT use "create note" or push "N", but rather select (left-click) the note so it turns blue, and use your UP and DOWN arrow keys to move the note, or drag it up or down once you've selected it with left click.

(Do NOT right click the note to change it alphabetically or any other way unless you want to write more than one note!)

Let us know if that helps?
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And DRBuck and Kent, please watch the lesson on this webpage below when you get a chance. This is an excellent short movie on mouse note input by our very own Daniel Spreadbury:

http://www.sibelius.com/products/sibelius/movies/note_input.html

and then watch Lesson 3 on Mouse Entry here:
http://www.sibeliusblog.com/tutorials/learn-sibelius-6-in-one-hour/

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by DrBuck - 21 Nov 12:58AM
Richard---------I think I will just start using mouse note inputting. It looks easier actually. BTW I tried both of the tutorials and they both locked up my laptop. Doc

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by Richard Vitale - 21 Nov 01:39AM
Good DB.

About the mouse inputting, you've got a Ferrari, and you've only been taking it to the corner store. It'll be much easier this way actually!
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Re the tutorials:
If by "locked up my laptop" you mean it "froze" your computer, don't run them again, even though that shouldn't happen.
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If you meant the movie didn't start on it's own, these movies at:
http://www.sibeliusblog.com/tutorials/learn-sibelius-6-in-one-hour/

you have to push the "start" arrow.

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Good luck with it all!

:-)

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Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing
Posted by Gary Murway - 08 Dec 12:23AM
> Is there a way to disable the mouse inputing feature?? I rarely use this feature and I am constantly hitting escape to get rid of the blue cursor for note inputting. thanks,DrBuck

the issue seems to have been resolved in sib 8. i know that doesn't help when you're using ver 4. i didn't upgrade to 8 for this issue but i'm so glad it's fixed. that constant hitting escape or n to get out of note entry made me crazy. so i can stop screaming at my pc to stop the insanity.
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Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 16 Nov 10:43PM
     Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 17 Nov 07:58AM
         Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Doc K, 18 Nov 11:21AM
             Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 18 Nov 05:15PM
                 Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 18 Nov 06:46PM
                     Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 19 Nov 05:07PM
                         Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 19 Nov 06:34PM
                             Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - DrBuck, 21 Nov 12:58AM
                                 Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Richard Vitale, 21 Nov 01:39AM
     Re: Sib. 4.x: turning off mouse note inputing - Gary Murway, 08 Dec 12:23AM