'Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques'

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Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 03 Sep 06:56PM
     Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Daniel Spreadbury, 03 Sep 10:06PM
         Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 03 Sep 11:05PM
             Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Craig F, 04 Sep 03:08PM
                 Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 04 Sep 04:57PM
                     Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Daniel Spreadbury, 04 Sep 05:10PM
                         Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 04 Sep 06:43PM
                             Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Craig F, 05 Sep 09:16PM
                                 Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 07 Sep 05:45AM

Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Annabelle S. Morison - 03 Sep 06:56PM
If I was to define the way Sibelius plays Portamento, how would I write in that it should play with a pitch bend? Is Pitch Bend a MIDI controller? If so, which one?
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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 03 Sep 10:06PM
Pitch bend is controlled by MIDI messages of the form ~B0,x, where x is a number between 0 and 127. You can read more about pitch bend in the 'MIDI messages' topic in Help > Sibelius Reference.

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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Annabelle S. Morison - 03 Sep 11:05PM
I know that the default position of the ~B0 command is 64, which apparently is the "Reset" position. But when I read the reference, it gives me some other little numbers, but I'm not sure what each one corresponds to. Could you please try to help me understand these numbers? I would kindly appreciate it.
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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Craig F - 04 Sep 03:08PM
I agree the manual's description is less than helpful. Here are the formulas. I hope they help.

Calculating MIDI Pitch Bend

Pitch Bend is a 14 bit value, two 7 bit “Bytes”.
8192 is no bend. Anything higher is sharp, anything lower is flat.
16383 = most sharp, 0 = most flat.
PB is sent Least Significant Digit first.
~B 127,64 would be (64 * 128) + 127 = 8319 which is slightly sharp.

Formulas
C = Cents (positive number is sharp, negative number is flat)
R = Pitch Bend Range (for Kontakt use 12, use 2 for all others)
PB = Round(8192 + ((C/100) * (16384/(2*R))))
PitchBend2 = RoundDown(PB/128)
PitchBend1 = ((PB/128) - PitchBend2) * 128

Pitch Bend Command
~B PitchBend1, PitchBend2

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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Annabelle S. Morison - 04 Sep 04:57PM
So how would I write these in Sibelius? Would it be classified as Technique Text? Expression Text? I'm confused!
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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 04 Sep 05:10PM
MIDI messages can be written in any staff-attached text style; using Technique would be fine.

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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Annabelle S. Morison - 04 Sep 06:43PM
What would be the way that you would recommend for me to input the Pitch Bend command? Since I tried technique text, and for some reason, it won't let the pitch bend play back in Sibelius.
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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Craig F - 05 Sep 09:16PM
As a test, create a quartertone accidental and run the quartertone playback plugin. This will create a pitch bend message. Be sure to enable View Hidden Objects to see the message. If your playback device is Kontakt, it won't be an actual quartertone.

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Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques
Posted by Annabelle S. Morison - 07 Sep 05:45AM
> As a test, create a quartertone accidental and run the quartertone playback plugin. This will create a pitch bend message. Be sure to enable View Hidden Objects to see the message. If your playback device is Kontakt, it won't be an actual quartertone.
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I wonder, would this work when defining things like Scoop and Fall?
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Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 03 Sep 06:56PM
     Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Daniel Spreadbury, 03 Sep 10:06PM
         Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 03 Sep 11:05PM
             Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Craig F, 04 Sep 03:08PM
                 Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 04 Sep 04:57PM
                     Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Daniel Spreadbury, 04 Sep 05:10PM
                         Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 04 Sep 06:43PM
                             Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Craig F, 05 Sep 09:16PM
                                 Re: Sib. 5.x: Defining Playback Techniques - Annabelle S. Morison, 07 Sep 05:45AM