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Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Platinu... - Thomas K., 12 Jan 06:31PM
     Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Pla... - Daniel Spreadbury, 13 Jan 11:11AM
         Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Pla... - Thomas K., 14 Jan 02:04AM
             Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Pla... - Marc E. Schonbrun, 14 Jan 05:31AM

Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Bundle
Posted by Thomas K. - 12 Jan 06:31PM (edited 12 Jan 06:42PM)
I am about to purchase the EWQLSO Platinum Bundle, but I would like to know for sure on how easily this can be integrated with Sibelius. Is it a relatively simple process to have integrated within Sibelius 5, similar in the way GPO is integrated? Also, when using other virtual instruments aside from GPO in Sib., are the switches made just as easily as when using GPO? Such as telling strings to play pizz. or col legno, or having a brass use a mute or fluttertongue? Thank you for any feedback on this.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I'm also considering getting Symphonic Choirs as well from EastWest, I just like the same questions answered about that.

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Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Bundle
Posted by Daniel Spreadbury - 13 Jan 11:11AM
No, neither EWQLSO nor Symphonic Choirs are as easily integrated into
Sibelius as GPO are.

Firstly, no sound sets are currently available for either of these
products, so you would have to either develop a sound set yourself, or
use the Manual Sound Sets page of Play > Playback Devices to tell
Sibelius which sounds are loaded (look under the subheading 'Using a
multi-channel virtual instrument without a sound set' on page 321 of
Help > Sibelius Reference for the basic procedure).

Secondly, Sibelius cannot load the EWQLSO or Symphonic Choirs sounds
automatically, so you will have to load the sounds manually into the
supplied Kompakt player. (Note that if you're on Mac, the supplied
Kompakt player isn't a Universal Binary and so won't work with Sibelius
5 at all on Intel, so you would also need to purchase the full Kontakt
sampler to use those sounds in Sibelius on an Intel Mac.)

Thirdly, the sounds are much, much larger than the GPO sounds and hence
you can load fewer sounds simultaneously. A keyswitches violin or cello
sound may take up several hundred megabytes of memory, meaning that you
may only be able to load a handful of sounds before you run out of
memory. Certainly you won't be able to run a full orchestra using
EWQLSO on a single machine: users who need to do this tend to have
several computers all ganged together, either using MIDI or a special
VST plug-in called FX Teleport to run the data from their main machine
to their slaved sample-playing PCs.

Fourthly, there are several different configurations of keyswitches etc.
for each sound, and without a sound set, you would have to trigger these
keyswitches yourself in the score using text like ~Nx,64, where x is the
number of the MIDI note you require to trigger the keyswitch.

Fifthly, you cannot use the Symphonic Choirs WordBuilder application
directly with Sibelius, so you will be limited to basic ah, oo, eh etc.
vowel sounds from that library.

The EWQLSO sounds do sound great, but don't expect them to be a simple
drop-in replacement for GPO.

You may also want to consider VSL Special Edition, which does work
somewhat more seamlessly with Sibelius, though it has many of the same
challenges (e.g. the sounds are much larger than GPO).

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Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Bundle
Posted by Thomas K. - 14 Jan 02:04AM
Thank you for the reply, Daniel. I understand, now, the hurdles that would need to be crossed to get it to work, but, EWQLSO can still work with Sibelius 5, correct?

Of all the reasons you listed, the only one that would probably get in the way is your fourth reason, with having to lay out each MIDI text for keyswitches. Are there ways around this when making your own sound set?

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Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Bundle
Posted by Marc E. Schonbrun - 14 Jan 05:31AM
Yes, when you make a soundset you tell Sibelius what to do when "pizz" is written, or any other SoundID change. In the case of a keyswitch, in the soundset, you'd program that that SoundID change would trigger a keyswitch of a certain note.

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Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Platinu... - Thomas K., 12 Jan 06:31PM
     Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Pla... - Daniel Spreadbury, 13 Jan 11:11AM
         Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Pla... - Thomas K., 14 Jan 02:04AM
             Re: Sib. 5.1: East West Symphonic Orchestra Pla... - Marc E. Schonbrun, 14 Jan 05:31AM