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(Sam) New update to Application Manager for Win... - Sam at Sibelius, 19 Aug 04:26PM
     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Graham Ranft, 19 Aug 08:29PM
         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 20 Aug 12:17AM
             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Robert Enns, 20 Aug 02:39AM
             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Uwe Mahnken, 20 Aug 08:10AM
                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Robert Enns, 20 Aug 11:58AM
                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mark K Sealey, 20 Aug 03:29PM
                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 20 Aug 03:41PM
                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mike Lyons, 20 Aug 04:31PM
                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mike Lyons, 20 Aug 04:50PM
                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mark K Sealey, 20 Aug 06:21PM
                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Peter Roos, 20 Aug 07:50PM
                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 20 Aug 08:38PM
                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Robert Enns, 20 Aug 10:15PM
                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Peter Roos, 20 Aug 10:19PM
                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Robert Enns, 21 Aug 01:23AM
                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Rob Tuley, 21 Aug 01:51AM
                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mike Lyons, 21 Aug 06:27AM
                                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - steve4cello, 21 Aug 10:33PM
                                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Richard Vitale, 24 Aug 05:12AM
                                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Richard Vitale, 24 Aug 05:17AM
                                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Joe @ Sibelius, 24 Aug 08:43AM
                                                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Richard Vitale, 24 Aug 05:24PM
                                                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Rein Quint, 29 Aug 08:51AM
                                                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Venancio @ Avid, 29 Aug 12:37PM
                                                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Scott Foster, 02 Sep 11:22PM
                                                                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Scott Foster, 02 Sep 11:42PM
                                                                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mike Lyons, 03 Sep 06:27AM
                                                                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Venancio @ Avid, 05 Sep 06:26AM
                                                                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Scott Foster, 07 Sep 08:24AM
                                                                                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mark Dal Porto, 08 Sep 10:41PM
                                                                                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 08 Sep 11:14PM
                                                                                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Robin Walker, 08 Sep 11:25PM
                                                                                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 09 Sep 12:20AM
                                                                                                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Mark Dal Porto, 09 Sep 12:39AM
                                                                                                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - steve4cello, 12 Sep 11:08AM
                                                                                                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Sam at Sibelius, 12 Sep 12:25PM
                                                                                                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - steve4cello, 13 Sep 08:49AM
                                                                                                                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Venancio @ Avid, 14 Sep 04:53PM
                                                                                                                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralf_F1, 14 Sep 08:36PM
                                                                                                                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Joe @ Sibelius, 14 Sep 10:25PM
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                                                                                                                                                                 Re: Sierra - Joe @ Sibelius, 16 Sep 06:13PM
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                                                                                                                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralf F., 16 Sep 12:24PM
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Joe @ Sibelius, 16 Sep 06:12PM
                                                                                                                                                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Joe @ Sibelius, 16 Sep 08:25PM
                                                                                                                                                                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralf_F1, 19 Sep 07:25PM
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Joe @ Sibelius, 19 Sep 07:26PM
                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - David Hamilton, 01 Oct 03:42AM
                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 04 Oct 03:58PM
                         Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Sam at Sibelius, 04 Oct 04:30PM
                             Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 05 Oct 02:54AM
                                 Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Sam at Sibelius, 05 Oct 11:04AM
                                     Re: New update to Application Manager for Windo... - Ralph L. Bowers Jr., 05 Oct 11:54AM

(Sam) New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 19 Aug 04:26PM (edited 31 Aug 05:36PM)
Hi All,

Yesterday, we released a new upgrade to Application Manager that includes some useful new features:

  • Auto-install - This feature allows users to have Sibelius, Pro-Tools and Media Composer installed in the background. It still requires you to start the installation process, but once it starts, it runs without the installer window or repeated prompts for credentials. This is often called "silent install".

  • Auto-Update - This feature allows software (once approved by you) to be automatically updated when new updates are available.


For further details, and to toggle these features on/off, see the Application Manager 2.5.8 readme.

There have also been improvements to the reliability of Application Manager in general, especially around signing in. If you have any difficulty signing in, please get in touch with Support and they'll get you up and running. (Please note, there's a known issue in this area on macOS Sierra that we plan to address in a future update)

Application Manager is recommended for everyone running Sibelius 8. To update, simply open Application Manager, go to the Apps page and click Update.

Sam

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Graham Ranft - 19 Aug 08:29PM
Installed ok.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 20 Aug 12:17AM
Since I updated I keep getting this popup window about every 15 minutes.
The new Application Manager is far from perfect Sam!!!

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Robert Enns - 20 Aug 02:39AM
I tried to update it and the download just sits at 0%.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Uwe Mahnken - 20 Aug 08:10AM
> Since I updated I keep getting this popup window about every 15 minutes.

Here the same ...

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Robert Enns - 20 Aug 11:58AM
Probably a good thing that I can't update then.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mark K Sealey - 20 Aug 03:29PM (edited 20 Aug 03:29PM)
Is that the same as this:

'If a product has been updated and requires a restart, you will see a message indicating a restart is necessary. The message is shown every 10 minutes until you restart the system. (The same message appears in the Application Manager in the Apps tab.)'

here in the docs for 3.5.8: <http://resources.avid.com/SupportFiles/attach/Avid_Application_Manager_Read_me_2.5.8.pdf>?

Or a fault?

> > Since I updated I keep getting this popup window about every 15 minutes.
>
> Here the same ...


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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 20 Aug 03:41PM
No....., not in my case.
A system restart was performed as requested.
It's probably a server issue on Avids side of this equation, which is typical and par for the course with Avid.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mike Lyons - 20 Aug 04:31PM
I keep getting this error when I try to run AppMan.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mike Lyons - 20 Aug 04:50PM
> I keep getting this error when I try to run AppMan.
>
> --
> Win 10 Pro, 1.6GHz Intel i7 Quad core, 8GB,7TB 7200rpm HDD, Scarlett 6i6, Sib 6.2,7.5, 8.3 NotePerformer, Miroslav Phil, Harmony Asst, GPO, COMB2, EWQLSO Plat, EWQLSC,
> Si me castigare vis, necesse est me intellexisse.

Solved it by reinstalling the Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable from Microsoft. I have absolutely no idea why this happened. Bizarre!

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mark K Sealey - 20 Aug 06:21PM
I did the upgrade when I read Sam's post. And it worked perfectly. No reminders. Nothing amiss. Good luck to others… :-)

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Peter Roos - 20 Aug 07:50PM
Update works fine for me as well.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 20 Aug 08:38PM
Application Manager finally recognized and finally confirmed my licences. Which further leads to the belief that it was Avids server recognizing my licences as the cause.

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MuseScore 2 (seeing what's out there)
ProTools 9.5, Reaper
Notion 4, Notion 5 (bought but not installed), Progression, Progression 2, Progression 3
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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Robert Enns - 20 Aug 10:15PM
Immediately after updating I got an alert that 8.4 was now available. It can't even tell that I already have this installed. Not impressed.
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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Peter Roos - 20 Aug 10:19PM
> Immediately after updating I got an alert that 8.4 was now available. It can't even tell that I already have this installed. Not impressed.
> --
> Rob


I have the same thing -- Sam can correct me if I am wrong, but that is probably because you downloaded 8.4 directly from the website, rather than through the Application Manager (at least that is what I did).

If you don't install a new version through the App Manager, it doesn't "know" that you already downloaded the latest version and you keep getting the notice that a new version is available.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Robert Enns - 21 Aug 01:23AM
As far as I remember, I upgraded from 8.3 to 8.4 via the app manager.
Not only that, but the app itself shows 8.4 as the current Sibelius version.
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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Rob Tuley - 21 Aug 01:51AM
> it doesn't "know" that you already downloaded the latest version

Assuming you actually installed it after downloading it, the app could find out either by looking in the Windows registry (or the equivalent on Mac) to find what version is currently licenced and authorized on that particular PC. Or, it could look at the Avid database to find out what was authorized.

"Not knowing" seems like an apology for sloppy implementation to me.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mike Lyons - 21 Aug 06:27AM
My AppMan shows my sib version as current, but still shows that there is a new version in the 'news feed'. It's not really a problem.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by steve4cello - 21 Aug 10:33PM (edited 22 Aug 10:59AM)
For the last 2 days I was getting the attached whenever I tried to open AppMan on my desktop. So I couldn't update AppMan from the Apps page in AppMan because it wouldn't let me in.

OTOH AppMan was functioning OK on my SurfacePro...

Nothing else in my desktop setup had changed. Checked through all firewall settings & AppMan was definitely allowed, as it always was. Rebooting made no difference.

(sigh) This is a real bore & such a waste of time...

Eventually downloaded latest AppMan installer from Avid website & re-installed. After a couple of re-boots everything seems to be working. But couple of hours wasted when I really needed to be doing other stuff.

Is this new version going to be more stable? Do hope so

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Richard Vitale - 24 Aug 05:12AM
Maybe tell people to get to the Settings Menu, click on the purple arrow next to their email address in the top-right of the AppMan.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Richard Vitale - 24 Aug 05:17AM (edited 24 Aug 05:22AM)
Also, I'm trying to set up auto-install in AppMan and it's saying, "Username is not an administrator user. Please enter Administrator credentials.

Why is this???

Is this the same user name and password I use to log in to AppMan?

Signed, Shoot me now!

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 24 Aug 08:43AM

> Is this the same user name and password I use to log in to AppMan?
>

No this is your computer username and password - it must be an administrator account that you use, for example, to log into your computer, install software and other privileged operations.

Let me know if you're encountering more problems and I'll ask one of my colleagues in tech support to get in touch to help.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Richard Vitale - 24 Aug 05:24PM (edited 25 Aug 05:19AM)
Thx Joe,

Admin name on Mac is the name you find attached to your Home folder inside of your hard drive.

And congratulations on the new release!

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Rein Quint - 29 Aug 08:51AM
Dear mr., when i started Application Manager for windows, the system sais: Initializing. and then: noting. It had worked, but now not more. What can I do??

Greetings
Rein Quint

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Venancio @ Avid - 29 Aug 12:37PM (edited 29 Aug 12:37PM)
Hi Rein,

Created a case for you (03027009) and one of our techs will be in touch.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Scott Foster - 02 Sep 11:22PM
Absolutely bonkers!

The Application Manager advised me of a Sibelius update.

Update done, everything went well.

Afterwards, Application Manager kept activating about every fifteen minutes, (as many as nine icons popping up), trying to initialize and not doing it. Simply wouldn't stop. No changes to firewalls nor anti-virus.

To stop this annoyance, I tried a repair. Wouldn't work,(just hung).

I removed Avid Application Manager, defragged my Registry, restarted, and made certain that it was gone. Gone.

I re-installed it. It continued to go bonkers, (wouldn't initialize and kept opening up another window). I tried a repair. It settled down.

Now, according the Avid Application Manager, I don't have any products... No, wait, I do have Sibelius 8.4.1.111 which needs to be updated. Hold on, I updated that before this nonsense began; in fact, it was after that update when all of this nonsense began.

I am certainly not impressed with Avid's Application Manager.

I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I really like Sibelius 6, and I think Sibelius 7 was a step backwards; but, really, Sibelius 8 and this Application Manager, (for someone with a permanent license), are a real pain. I am interested in editing old music, making new arrangements, and printing the music so that others can enjoy it.

Instead, I have an Application Manager popping up on my screen every five minutes, (now); it won't initialize; and, it won't update my program.

Upgrading to Sibelius 8 was worse than I'd ever dream an excellent music notation program could get!

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Scott Foster - 02 Sep 11:42PM
Wow!

I now count thirteen Avid Application Manager icons, popping up in the last sixteen minutes. It's like fireworks!

Are there really this many new updates for Sibelius?

If not, I'm removing this Application Manager until someone at Avid figures out that it's a good idea to test a program before unleashing it upon their customers. Send me an e-mail when that's been done.

I'm really disappointed with Avid!

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mike Lyons - 03 Sep 06:27AM
Just get rid of it, Scott. It serves no really useful purpose anyway.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Venancio @ Avid - 05 Sep 06:26AM (edited 05 Sep 11:07AM)
Hi Scot,

So sorry for the bad experience. One of our techs will help you out.

We've created a case for you (03031158) so you may just reply to that e-mail to let us know how you get on.


Regards,

Vee

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Scott Foster - 07 Sep 08:24AM
Greetings,

I uninstalled the Application Manager 2.5.8, (which wouldn't initilize and was repeatedly attempting to notify me of updates, as many as sixteen times).

Installing the previous version 2.5.7 brought things back to normal. It initialized and allowed me to update Sibelius to 8.4.2.231 without any problem.

However, the update for Sibelius also updates the Application Manager to 2.5.8; so, I was again getting repeated attempts to initialize. Again, I uninstalled the version 2.5.8 and re-installed version 2.5.7. The update of Sibelius appears uneffected and shows as "Current" on the Application Manager. The only glitches might be that the Application Manager constantly searches for a subscription, (when I have a permanent license), and indicates an update for version 2.5.8 of the Application Manager, (which has been my main problem). I've cleaned the "Cache" and can Close the Application Manager, (without its popping up again and again).

Thus, if one updates Sibelius to 8.4.2.231, one may want to uninstall the Application Manager 2.5.8, and re-install the 2.5.7 version.

Sincerely,

Scott Foster

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mark Dal Porto - 08 Sep 10:41PM
I also did the App Man update to 2.5.9. It seems OK for me although one of the menu items isn’t there anymore. It still has “Account”, “Apps”, & “Licensing” but one menu item is now missing (I think it was “Support”). Was this menu item intentionally taken away on this latest update or did the update not install correctly for me? (I'm on Windows 10 with Sib 8.4.2)

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 08 Sep 11:14PM
Avid/Sibelius on top of their game once again. NOT!!!

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Finale 2010b,2011b,2012c, 2014d, 2014.5, TGTools pro, Patterson plugins, JW Plugins, GPO4, World Instruments. SmartScore X Pro, SmartScore X2 Pro

MuseScore 2 (seeing what's out there)
ProTools 9.5, Reaper
Notion 4, Notion 5 (bought but not installed), Progression, Progression 2, Progression 3
Windows XP Pro (32 bit); 2@ 7 Pro (64 bit); 8.1 Pro (64 bit); Windows 10 Home/ 4-16GB Ram across five PC's
Pencil & Paper
BMus MM (Musicology)

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Robin Walker - 08 Sep 11:25PM
In AppMan 2.5.9, the "Support" items are now in the pull-down menu, under item "Help"

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 09 Sep 12:20AM (edited 09 Sep 02:44PM)
Who would rather have this more fully formed tab back (see png. file), than the Help dropdown they have given us with this newest update.

It just keeps getting better and better!
Tongue firmly planted in cheek.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Mark Dal Porto - 09 Sep 12:39AM
I for one would like to see the App Man "Support" menu tab come back as I found it to be more informative (as well as much quicker to access) than using the pull-down menu and going to "Help".

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by steve4cello - 12 Sep 11:08AM
Today AppMan told me (without being asked) that there is a new update to version 5.9 that I should install. Apparently it contains bug fixes stability improvements and a new Help Menu.

Now who wouldn't want that?

But Avid won't let me (see attachment)

I'm increasingly fed up with the amount of my time that AppMan issues keep wasting. I know, I should uninstall it with extreme prejudice and probably will do so soon.



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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 12 Sep 12:25PM
Stephen - best try again and contact support if you need further help.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by steve4cello - 13 Sep 08:49AM
Thank you Sam, seems to be working now.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Venancio @ Avid - 14 Sep 04:53PM (edited 14 Sep 04:53PM)
Hi Stephen,

Glad to hear it's working now. You may mark that email from support and reply to it if you encounter any issues again.

Vee

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralf_F1 - 14 Sep 08:36PM
Dear Vee,
since the update of the AM to v2.5.9.13525 and/or the update to MacOS Sierra (now v10.12) the AM isn't able to finish to initialize.
Due to this AM disables itself later.
I'm monitoring this problem since weeks now ... without any progress and updates/bugfixes from Avid.
Need finally a solution for this bug.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards from Germany.
Ralf Friese

PS: Using Sibelius 8.4.2.231.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 14 Sep 10:25PM
Hi Ralf,

Yes this is a known issue. Sierra is still in beta and is not yet supported although Sibelius should be fine. I'm working on this issue with Apple as we speak to get to the bottom of it.

As a work around, you may log into your Avid Account at https://my.avid.com to retrieve any downloads you might need, and your activation and system IDs which you may then use to activate Sibelius and other Avid software from within Application Manager.

Joe

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Sierra
Posted by consordini - 16 Sep 11:34AM
Hi Joe.
I have the latest Sibelius 8 and have to upgrade to Sierra next week. Are there any likely problems that I will encounter with my Sibelius ? Thanks Marianne

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Re: Sierra
Posted by Laurence Payne - 16 Sep 05:13PM
> Hi Joe.
> I have the latest Sibelius 8 and have to upgrade to Sierra next week. Are there any likely problems that I will encounter with my Sibelius ? Thanks Marianne

Why do you HAVE to be an early adopter of Sierra?

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Re: Sierra
Posted by consordini - 16 Sep 08:16PM
Many thousands of people around the World will buy a new Mac next week that will have Sierra already installed. What is going to happen to them when they run Sibelius 8, often for the first time ? There is no point telling them that they should wait to install Sierra after it has already failed on Sibelius 8 ?

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Re: Sierra
Posted by Laurence Payne - 16 Sep 08:30PM (edited 16 Sep 08:32PM)
> Many thousands of people around the World will buy a new Mac next week that will have Sierra already installed. What is going to happen to them when they run Sibelius 8, often for the first time ? There is no point telling them that they should wait to install Sierra after it has already failed on Sibelius 8 ?

Indeed. Anyone who is unfortunate enough to buy a new computer the same week a new os is released is going to expect problems. Which is no reason for an existing user to go LOOKING for problems!

(But does a Mac bought next week HAVE to have Sierra installed?)

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Re: Sierra
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 16 Sep 06:13PM
> Hi Joe.
> I have the latest Sibelius 8 and have to upgrade to Sierra next week. Are there any likely problems that I will encounter with my Sibelius ? Thanks Marianne

Hi Marianne,

I can't recommend upgrading yet (although, I've been running Sierra for months now). We're working on an official green light. More news when I have it.

Joe


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Re: Sierra
Posted by consordini - 16 Sep 08:20PM
Hi Joe,
Thanks for your reply.
I would be grateful if you could read my response above, and give me some reassurance that buying a new Mac next week that is already installed with Sierra will work with the latest Sibelius 8 ?
Many thanks Marianne

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralf F. - 16 Sep 12:24PM
Dear Joe,

thank you very much for your feedback.

I think - since the release of the GM - the beta phase of Sierra ended ... and a bugfix should be available either from Avid or Apple ... although I see the main responsibility at Avid.

Why? In my opinion the AM is very bad designed - the whole concept is far away from "customer-friendly".

So please push the development of a bugfix to solve these issues - especially because the AM seems to be an annoying tick ... meanwhile impossible to get rid of the autostart sequence.

Best regards

Ralf

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 16 Sep 06:12PM
Hi Ralf,

As I say I'm working with Apple directly to get the issue addressed.

As a separate matter I am also working with the AppMan team to improve that experience.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

Joe

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 16 Sep 08:25PM
Hi folks,

We've just implemented a fix for the issue that prevented Application Manager from displaying its login screen on Sierra, so you should now be able to launch AppMan, log in, download and maintain your Avid software as usual.

I'm now working with the AppMan team to get their official stamp of approval for Sierra.

In terms of Sibelius itself, we did discover an issue with our video feature, and provided a fix in Sibelius 8.4.2 ready for the Sierra release. Since then I'm happy to report we've found no new issues. I don't think it wouldn't be fair for us to claim full Sierra support until we've made sure that AppMan is also functioning correctly - more news on that when I have it.

Joe

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralf_F1 - 19 Sep 07:25PM
Dear Joe,

seems to work now fine on Sierra ... although the time for the initializing process is still relatively long. Maybe you have some ideas to fine tune also this issue.

Best regards

Ralf

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Joe @ Sibelius - 19 Sep 07:26PM
Ralf,

Glad it's working. I'm also aware of the unusually long initialization times and I'm working to get that rectified too. That will be included in a future update although I can't say when at this point.

Joe

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by David Hamilton - 01 Oct 03:42AM
Did you get this sorted? I have the same problem. My local support simply sent me a link to an older Application Manager to download. Uninstall the current one first. That solves it. But why they released this programme with so many bugs I don't know!

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 04 Oct 03:58PM
Is the Application Manager download page going to be updated today with the newest edition?

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 04 Oct 04:30PM
Yes. I'll ping the App Man team who will have this on their to-do list.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 05 Oct 02:54AM
Sure would be nice when they get on the ball and get that update done. I have not been able to download and install from within the Application Manager since the windows 10 anniversary update.

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Sam at Sibelius - 05 Oct 11:04AM
Hi Ralph,

You'll now find 2.5.10 here:

http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/download/Avid-Application-Manager

Sam

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Re: New update to Application Manager for Windows and Mac
Posted by Ralph L. Bowers Jr. - 05 Oct 11:54AM

Thanks Sam, that did the trick.
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